Allegations and accusations 107 and counting
Since the ORT and its supporters can make allegations without any support or facts I figure we are free to do the same...
So here is my allegation of the day.
Music Note paid for the Lions club ad in the Overland Watch
here is my (circumstantial) evidence...
Music note was the first person to bring up the possibility that the ads may not have been placed by the organization that was credited.
Music note has spoke often about being a lions member in fact she has stated that she is in Mew York for the Boston 2006 convention...
So putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5
I accuse you music note of placing that ad in the Overland Watch.
Now if you want to clear your name you can out the person who placed the ad or you can just keep quiet and accept the blame for yourself....
So here is my allegation of the day.
Music Note paid for the Lions club ad in the Overland Watch
here is my (circumstantial) evidence...
Music note was the first person to bring up the possibility that the ads may not have been placed by the organization that was credited.
Music note has spoke often about being a lions member in fact she has stated that she is in Mew York for the Boston 2006 convention...
So putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5
I accuse you music note of placing that ad in the Overland Watch.
Now if you want to clear your name you can out the person who placed the ad or you can just keep quiet and accept the blame for yourself....
posted by John Doe at 10:57 AM
23 Comments:
Well, here I might have made a mistake. My mistake is assuming that MusicNote knows SOMETHING.
We thought she was in NY because she said "the Big Apple". Now, she may be in Boston and not realize that city is "the Hub". Aaahh...and she may not realize St. Louis is "The Gateway to the West" or "Mound City" or "Arch City" or my fave "The Lou".
So, I think it is best if we all just realize the mistake we have made of giving her too much credit to realize where she is. I mean, it's not like she is out enjoying the historical landmarks or sightseeing. She is too busy trying to keep the pot stirred back home.
My weekend plans:
1) Stop by Localite office. Place an advertisement for $20.00 off any pizza order at Domino's.
2) Call Suburban Journals. Place an advertisement for $100.00 off Wild Acres Rental.
3) Go on web. Place classified ad in the RFT pimping out my cousin for dates.
How are these all similar? Well, I did work for Domino's at one time. I am a citizen of Overland. And my cousin--well, she IS family. That should give me rights to place any and all of these ads in any publication.
The city council asked for an investigation into the Overland Crotch. I think this ad fiasco is grounds for an investigation. Despite Knode's claim that free speech = print whatever you want, you cannot just place advertisements if you are not authorized.
Everyone else who hates the nickname "the Lou" for St Louis raise your hand. Everytime I hear someone say "the lou" I wonder if they need to head to the water closet.
Great site! I am wondering if would be interested in helping with a non-partisan site that is in the works to be a resource for overland?
Feel free to Email me for more info.
For the record I am NOT connected to politics in Overland on either side.
I think you have a fine idea Sailor.
My compliments to your good natured non-partisan outside the beltway appeal to the OVCC regulars.
In fact I first came to the OC political scene with much of the same outlook as you. A regular "Mr. Durham Goes to Overland" I was.
I must admit that my hope for a bright and shining city of the hill was shortlived. Provided you share the same intellectual faculties as any ordinary right thinking American, you should identify the one dominant and most salient issue currently cleaving the distribution of voters in Overland.
Much like the issue of slavery realigned pre-Civil War partisans; Much like the Great Depression and government's response realigned pre-WWII partisans; Much like the Civil Rights Movement realigned southern partisanship; Overland too has a dominant salient issue that clearly cleaves the issue space into two clean groups.
The most important issue driving Overland Politics at this time is without a doubt the issue of Sanity.
Mayor Purzner best personifies the distinction through her compulive pushing on the envelop of rationality. A very close second on the crazy trane would be Ken "AK" Blowensme. You can't miss Ken. Whether blowing away a few varmits around the house or just blowing the....uhh....wait....uuuhhh...yeah, Ken is down right nuts.
Sailor, when thinking of Overland Politics you will be set at ease through using the lens of sane or insane to define partisanship.
Good luck.
Insane defines partisanship period.
Overland is a mini version of the situations we face on the national level. One side will not support even the best ideas. Thier reason? The other side proposed it and they do not want to see them get credit for it.
Hard to call that sane.
As for the Current situation in Overland. I have severe issues with the new Mayor. For example, she spent 16 years (wait, no she was wrong there too it was 14 years) on the city council and yet somehow managed to be there that long without ever learning even the most basic aspects of Roberts Rules of Order. Like the idea that the discussion stops when someone raises a point of order, so that the point of order in question can be reviewed.
However, I had issues with the previous administration too. For example, how many times did we hear "you don't know what you're talking about" as the only answer to a question. I can sympathize with the previous Mayor, his political opponants are rabid partisan dogs. However, how do you sell yourself, your side, your ideas to the people that cast the ballots if things are never explained to them either?
The problems in Overland Politics will not be easy to solve. Both sides are entrenched and both have made it personal. However, the best way to combat this lunacy is to get information out to the residents and get them to the polls.
That is why I am working on developing something where the purpose is to act as a resource for the community. A clearing house for information, a place for local organizations on all sides to be seen and a place for residents on all sides to challenge those who would lead us by asking the hard questions and demanding answers.
Will it work out that way? Who knows, however I happen to like developing this site, oddly enough I have found it to be fun so even if it fails I win. :-)
I am all for your efforts Sailor. As the saying goes,"nobody tells a Sailor when he has had too much to drink because only a Sailor knows when he has too much to drink." Therefore, only an Overland Sailor will know what works for an Overland Sailor. Your goal is admirable. From Woodrow Wilson to Ross Perot, separating politics from administration has been an appealing if not fanciful temptress. If we could all get into a room together and educate ourselve by laying-out the facts, we could solve the the current issues facing the BoA. But what if it is the very facts upon which we do not agree?
"I am an independent straight ticket voter who rationally analyzes the facts and current issues in order to vote on the best candiate running in every election. It is only by coincidence that the best candidates always turn out to be Republican."
As you say, even if you fail you will win from the experience.
"If... harsh words are spoken about some of the greatest among the intellectual leaders of mankind, my motive is not, I hope, the wish to belittle them. It springs rather from my conviction that, if our civilization is to survive, we much break with the habit of deference to great men. Great men may make great mistakes; and some of the greatest leaders of the past supported the perennial attack on freedom and reason. Their influence, too rarely challenged, continues to mislead those on whose defence civilization depends, and to divide them.
The responsibility of this tragic and possibly fatal division becomes ours if we hesitate to be outspoken in our criticism of what admittedly is a part of our intellectual heritage.
By reluctance to criticize some of it, we may help to destroy it all."
Karl Popper, "The Open Society", 1945.
Are you telling me that the Mayor, Mark Brown, Eric Tolen, Mathew McWilliams and Charles Polk are political allies? In cahoots! Our Mayor? Say it ain't so......
I am astonished. I had my suspicians, but was afraid I would be percieved as some sort of conspiracy theory freak chasing black helicopters around my yard.
I give a tip-of-my cap to The Citizen for their bold reporting in bringing the Purzner/Brown relationship into the open. Woodward and Bernstein eat your heart out.
I might be going out on a limb, but have another theory that the Citizen may want to pursue. At the risk of being labeled a loon, I offer the following.
I don't have any direct evidence, but I suspect that Aldermen Owensby, Sellers and Knode are also in league with the Mayor and Mark Brown. Call me crazy if you want folks. I think they may even be conspiring.
Now that I know the situation is not black and white but rather an opaque shade of gray, I might as well throw out a few other issues puzzling to me.
Is the rumor true that Mark Brown owns a printing company?
I also heard a rumor that Overland Assistant Director of Public Works, William Reid, will be announcing his retirement soon.
Finally, does anyone know when Phase II construction on Lackland Road will begin. The rumor around town is they will start resurfacing during "back-to-school" week in August.
Any help in making these issues "more black-er" or "more white-er" for me would be greatly appreciated.
Gravy anyone?
No response from the Music Note and her Sweet Pickle.
I would walk up to Music Note and hit her with the back of my glove and say, "I demand satisfaction Mam."
Watch it, Gravy! MN and SP are taking that women's self defense debacle and might put some of those moves on you!
I am sorry for getting your goat, Goat. Your tender sensibilities are honorable and we should all be more considerate of your virgin ears.
Goat, I am often confused by your posts. Your notes are so passive yet they are also aggressive. The "I would call you an A-hole but I won't stoop to your level" statement is beautiful. Save yourself some words. Just call me an A-hole. Don't pretend you are not calling me an A-hole while saying you would call me an A-hole. I love you. I am nominating you for Best Passive-Aggressive Blog Statement of 2006.
Also, I never understood why you are so attached to your anonymous username. "You are not T-Bone, I am T-Bone. He is not T-Bone. Mr. Grugar, I was T-Bone first".
If you do not want anyone to poke fun at your "handle" then use your real name.
I demand satisfaction!
I guess I will need to buy a gauntlet during lunch to make everything authentic.
Beware the dreaded glove........
I can't get no satisfaction,
I can't get no satisfaction.
'Cause I try and I try and I try and I try.
I can't get no, I can't get no.
When I'm drivin' in my car
and that man comes on the radio
and he's tellin' me more and more
about some useless information
supposed to drive my imagination.
I can't get no, oh no no no.
Hey hey hey, that's what I say.
I can't get no satisfaction,
I can't get no satisfaction.
'Cause I try and I try and I try and I try.
I can't get no, I can't get no.
When I'm watchin' my TV
and a man comes on to tell me
how white my shirts can be.
Well he can't be a man 'cause he doesn't smoke
the same cigarrettes as me.
I can't get no, oh no no no.
Hey hey hey, that's what I say.
I can't get no satisfaction,
I can't get no girl reaction.
'Cause I try and I try and I try and I try.
I can't get no, I can't get no.
When I'm ridin' round the world
and I'm doin' this and I'm signing that
and I'm tryin' to make some girl
who tells me baby better come back later next week
'cause you see I'm on losing streak.
I can't get no, oh no no no.
Hey hey hey, that's what I say.
I can't get no, I can't get no,
I can't get no satisfaction,
no satisfaction, no satisfaction, no satisfaction.
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Thanks for the lyrics. I have always been a big fan of Devo. Anyone have a copy of "Smell the Glove"? AKA "the Black Album".
Mick says:
We are not men we are Devo
D - E - V - O
Something about the way you taste
Makes me want to clear my throat
There's a message to your movements
That really gets my goat
I looked for sniffy linings
But you're rotten to the core
I've had just about all i can take
You know i can't take it no more
Gut Feeling (slap your mammy)
Are we not men?
Can anyone tell me if defemation laws apply to imaginary inter-net usernames posted on a blog? Wouldn't an actual person need to be involved somewhere?
I don't call you amuzing goat anyway.
You are The Amuzing Goat.
Twisting a username is only funny when you use words that rhyme with the actual username. Dog Food isn't funny and really nothing to be ashamed of Goat.
Try something like Gravy Brain or Waivy Grain or Frazur Crane or Gravy Lame or Gravy Lumps, or Biscuits and Gravy. You will get it sooner or later but remember it isn't really satirical if you simply use what you think to be a derrogatory name.
Now get out there and post something worthwhile and entertaining for a change Goat.
Your Welcome and I will see you when we get wild on the acres next Monday unless you will be busy grazing or something.
The Amuzing Goat,
You need to say more because you are being very passive with your aggression. Now that you are interested in what my partner
says after a hymn(?), I don't really know what you are getting at. First, you need to add a y to spell the word hymn rather than hmn. Second, if you would clean the plaque from your brain and squint through your cataracts a little harder you may notice that I wrote: "I demand satisfaction, Mam".
You must not be addressed as Mam too often because you changed it to Man. (Calling Doctor Frued.)
It is almost like you want to call me a homosexual through the use of the terms partner and changing the statement to Man rather than Mam. Why would that be funny? The old saying is true, we humans often mock what we don't understand.
Wait, that is not it. Now I get your point. You want to do me don't you Goat?
First, get in line. Second, learn how to scream. The cricket noises and snoring that eminate from your old man wouldn't cut it around here. That was kind of mean and I take it back.
We all know your Christmas Secret Goat and how the trauma of the secret causes you to lash out.
You know the secret you let out every x-mas after swilling a little too much Cooking Sherry, "you all want to hear a Christmas Secret? Do you? Then gather around dammit. Well you are giong to hear it whether you like it or not people. You will not ignore your Mother.
(pause, ambient noise decreases)
Your Father doesn't touch me anymore! Ok, there you have it. Merry X-mas family."
Ding Ding Ding. We have a winner by technical knock-out in the sixth round.
Ladies and Gentleman may I introduce to you, tonight's Winner and undisputed Champion.....Gravy Crane Durham.
Mam, there is an old saying that goes, "don't bring a tire iron to a fight unless you are prepared to be beaten with it."
You began discussing my sexual prowess as a result of the "demand satisfaction" comment. If you are familar with Southern Culture or Warner Brothers "Looney Toons" you would know that I have no intention of hitting you. Are you familiar with Yosemety Sam? I am sure you are familiar with Col. Sanders. Whenever Yosemeti was slighted he would demand satisfaction after slapping the face of his oponnent with the back of his empty glove.
It is a genteal way of dealing with conflict. You took it to the bedroom where I happily followed.
Out of all the possible words that could contain a typo it just so happens that the typo you made was changing Mam to Man immediately proceeding a discussion of my sexual prowess. Just a coincidence? What are the odds?
Lighten-up lady. I honestly do not go around beating up women because they would not apologize for accusing John Doe of stalking.
Post all you want. I don't discuss everything you say. I don't hate you in the least bit. Again, it is your ideas and breadth of your Public Administration expertise that I find Amuzing.
Rock on Sister, but always remember, "don't bring a tire iron to a fight unless you are prepared to be beaten with it." That is a metaphor Goat so relax.
Finally, congrats for picking-up on the link between Gravy Train and Gravy Crane. My intent was clear.
After the offense, whether real or imagined, the offended party would demand "satisfaction" from the offender,[3] signalling this demand with an inescapably insulting gesture, such as hitting the offender in the face with a glove, or throwing the glove before him, hence the phrase "throwing down the gauntlet". This originates from medieval times, when a knight was knighted. The knight-to-be would receive a ritual slap in the face, said to be the last one he ever had to accept without retaliating tenfold. Therefore anyone being slapped with a glove, was considered, like a knight, to accept the challenge, or be dishonoured. Each party would name a trusted representative (a second) who would, between them, determine a suitable "field of honour", the chief criterion being isolation from interruptions. Duels traditionally took place at dawn, for this very reason. It was also the duty of each party's second to check that the weapons were equal and that the duel was fair.
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