Monday, July 23

Sign, Sign, Everywhere a Sign (Blocking out the Scenery, Breaking my Mind)

Someone posted a comment, which has subsequently been deleted, questioning a yard sign on the private property of an Overland resident. The comment was partnered with a threat that “city hall” would soon be citing the resident for breaking sign ordinances.
Such sign ordinances have been found unconstitutional by SCOTUS, based on a suit that happened practically in our own backyard (or front yard as may be the case with yard signs). A unanimous U.S. Supreme Court in City of Ladue v. Gilleo, agreed that residential yard signs were “a venerable means of communication that is both unique and important.” The Court explained:
“Displaying a sign from one’s own residence often carries a message quite distinct from placing the sign someplace else, or conveying the same text or picture by other means. … Residential signs are an unusually cheap and convenient form of communication. Especially for persons of modest means or limited mobility, a yard or window sign may have no practical substitute. … Even for the affluent, the added costs in money or time of taking out a newspaper advertisement, handing out leaflets on the street, or standing in front of one’s house with a handheld sign may make the difference between participating and not participating in some public debate.”

The Gilleo decision has been used to overturned many laws, not just the solid right to have them in the first place. For example, Lower courts have cited the Gilleo precedent with great success in challenging city bans on time limits surrounding political yard signs. In Curry v. Prince George’s County (1999), a federal district court in Maryland invalidated a sign ordinance that limited the posting of political campaign signs in private residences to 45 days before and up to 10 days after an election. The court wrote, “When political campaign signs are posted on private residences, they merit the same special solicitude and protection established for cause signs in City of Ladue.”

Taking another example, the Supreme Court of Ohio ruled in City of Painesville Building Department v. Dworken & Bernstein Co. (2000) that a city law requiring the removal of political signs within 48 hours after an election is unconstitutional as applied to the posting of such signs on private property. “Although the Supreme Court has not considered the issue, the overwhelming majority of courts that have reviewed sign ordinances imposing durational limits for temporary political signs tied to a specific election date have found them to be unconstitutional,” the court wrote.

It has also been used to overturn laws regarding the quantity of signs in one’s yard. In Arlington County Republican Committee v. Arlington County (1993), a three-judge panel of the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals invalidated a county law that imposed a two-sign limit on temporary signs for each residence. The court noted that “the two-sign limit infringes on this speech by preventing homeowners from expressing support for more than two candidates when there are numerous contested elections.”

All of the above was presented to me in a Civil Liberties class taught by none other than Overland City Attorney Bob Herman. Thus, if city hall wants to “bring it on”, I think even their own lawyers would advise against it! But, if the city chooses to do so, I hope that they are an equal opportunity violator of civil liberties and cite signs from all candidates. However, when it comes down to it—the original poster is likely just full of shit and attempting to use intimidation tactics to win an election.

Sources: Supreme Court of the United States, First Amendment Center, Bob Herman’s “Civil Liberties” class

12 Comments:

Blogger John Moyle said...

It was my understand that as a result of this, and possibly a case in Clayton as well (I can't quite recall anymore) Overland removed the Ordinances governing limitations on these signs.

I tried looking over the Overland Ordinances Online to check into this by my time is very limited for the next few days.

Anyone aware of what specific ordinance covers these signs and if it is still in effect or not?

12:57 PM  
Blogger suzyjax said...

Yes, I remember the meeting where Bob Herman introduced a bunch of ordinances. One council member asked why and he said we need to repeal these signs ordinances due to a recent SCOTUS decision.

Even if they were still "on the books" they woul be thrown out in a court of law.

2:48 PM  
Blogger Say It Ain't So said...

Regarding signs the only signs that matter to me are the ones on the vacant buildings that say for sale or for lease. There are too many signs like these through out Overland that is what we need to be worried about signs about empty shops and storefronts

3:38 PM  
Blogger suzyjax said...

Speaking of that Tom,
I saw a MT Schneider sign in the most odd place last evening. It was stuck in a cinder block and that cinder block was in the middle of the old Pearl Vision parking lot. I thought it was appropriate of what we might see more of if MT is elected.

That whole corner (winding around to Brown) is now empty. It looks like something is going to go in the old "Cookies" but it's so hard to get in and out of there it doesn't seem to have success.

Now there are a block of properties that someone could put together (From the old steakhouse, old alarm company, cookies and Pearl vision) and make good use of that corner for one bigger development that when the whole corner is occupied might be easier to navigate.

3:52 PM  
Blogger onelayer said...

Talking of odd places for a sign. Was coming home the other day from Bauer just south of the railroad tracks on Warson when it turns into Ashby. I could have sworn I saw a MTS sign by the overpace for the tracks. No house no, no yard no nothing. Don't know for sure but I also heard that's by where MTS works or should say down a little ways.

4:50 PM  
Blogger suzyjax said...

Near the train tracks?

Maybe MT Schneider is going after the Hobo vote and trying to catch all those "riding the rails".

6:14 PM  
Blogger suzyjax said...

StupidAss About Town,
No need for me to call Edie. I heard the story from both sides and you are so far from what happened it is laughable.

6:17 PM  
Blogger explainit said...

If Conlon is so honest, how come she is allowing her friend Cuminale to steal Schneiders and Kellers signs? How come the rumor is spreading that Cuminale doesn't have an occupancy permit? Is this true? Check it out and let me know. I'm very interested, because an occupancy permit is required isn't it?

9:01 PM  
Blogger ghostbuster said...

Mike is capable, smart, personable, and not my choice for Mayor.

You the smart people, would do better to treat, write, act as he is a formidable candidate.

Thinking people know who is, and who isn't, the rest who don't.

The final story isn't written, but as it stands, MBC is by far without doubt or without argument, the only one we should consider.

Do that, and forget about your put downs toward Mike....he is not Anne...an easy person to put down...because she is ignorant...always been, and projects that to the world.

Mike has the faults you and I agree with, but the people of Podunk here, don't care!

...the people here as I speak that he....Mike almost screwed the system.....

Go forth and speak of MBC and her atibutes, not Schneider's lack of...

It won't work, maybe you are amusing each other here, but you are not making points....

10:49 PM  
Blogger PTT said...

I don't remember anyone saying that Schneider was not a formidable candidate on this blog. He is well financed and supported by people experienced in winning elections in Overland.

As far as I am concerned, I have absolutely no expectation that anything written on this blog or any other has a measurable effect on public opinion. I have a deep respect for the intractability of public opinion.

How else would one explain a group of people organizing to recall a lawless Mayor on principal in order to install a candidate that purposely cheats on his taxes?

So in closing, I am here for the entertainment.

8:21 AM  
Blogger PTT said...

I am of the understanding that Ms. Cuminale is an individual with the free-will to make her own decisions and it is not up to another to "allow" her to do anything.

As far as your rumor Explainit, if you are so interested in the verification of Cuminale's occupancy permit why don't you conduct the investigation.

This post is a classic example of ORT/COGG politics. Someone like Explainit will say there is a rumor spreading and wants someone else to verify. Therefore the point is not to verify the rumor, but to unfairly smear a candidate with a self admitted rumor.

If you were at all interested in the truth you may want to verify the rumors you hear yourself, find a truthful answer and report that answer to the public. That is how an honorable person would go about determining the truth.

But we know your game of "smear, leer and cheer" for what it is.

8:29 AM  
Blogger suzyjax said...

Scumbag About Town,
You represent the worst in politics. You choose to use threats and rumor to disuade those who disagree with you.
I am sure this is because you have nothing of substance to say about the candidate of your choice.

So, go home with your threats and insinuations. They have no place in democracy. Instead they are representative of bullying.

9:54 AM  

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